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Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique
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Togirix
Haruspice de Tarquina
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Epomanduodurum (Séquanie)
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28/10/2005
Sujet: Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique
Mar 14 Juin 2011 - 1:31
</embed></div><br />Le culte rendu aux dieux de la Nature consistait en offrandes jetées au fond des lacs, suspendues aux branches des chênes, ou bien en victimes immolées. Souvent les victimes étaient des êtres humains, tantôt égorgés, tantôt crucifiés, tantôt brûlés dans d'immenses mannequins d'osier. Ces coutumes subsistaient encore au Ier siècle av. JC quand César arriva en Gaule.<br /><br />Au culte des forêts se rattachait la cueillette du gui, plante parasite qui pousse exceptionnellement sur le chêne.<br /><br /> <dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Citation :</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">"Rien n'est plus sacré pour les Druides que le gui de l'arbre qui le porte, à condition que ce soit un chêne... Quand ils ont trouvé un gui sur un chêne, ils le cueillent au cours d'une cérémonie très solennelle. Ce soit être le sixième jour de la lune, qui est le premier de leurs mois... Ils préparent selon les rites, sous l'arbre sacré, les sacrifices et un festin ; ils font amener deux taureaux blancs, dont les cornes sont liées pour la première fois. Puis un prêtre, vêtu de blanc, monte sur le chêne et coupe, avec un faucille d'or, le gui que l'on reçoit sur une étoffe blanche. On immole alors les victimes, en priant le dieu de faire que le gui porte bonheur à ceux auxquels il l'accorde."</dd> </dl><br /><strong>Pline l'Ancien</strong>, <i>Histoire naturelle</i>, liv. 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top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="45280"></a><strong>Mr W</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Esclave Hyperboréen<br /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 13<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;">Localisation</span> : </span> Neustrie<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 25/11/2009<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/icon_minitime.gif" alt="Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique Icon_minitime" border="0" />Sam 18 Juin 2011 - 16:48</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Sympa la tite musique mise dedans, tu as fais ça comment ?<br /><br />Par contre, j'ai lut quelque part qu'il fallait faire attention avec les auteurs romains sur ce sujet, barbarisant allègrement le tout pour faire de la propagande pro-civilisation.. <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="6" /></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>J'aime</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Je n'aime pas</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--45280" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_up" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Revenir en haut" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img class="sprite-arrow_subsilver_down" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Aller en bas" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--45281" id="p45281" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="45281" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="45281"></a><strong>Diviacus</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Nomade de la steppe<br /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 9<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;">Localisation</span> : </span> Dourdan (91)<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 14/02/2010<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/icon_minitime.gif" alt="Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique Icon_minitime" border="0" />Sam 18 Juin 2011 - 20:02</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div><dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Wiomade a écrit:</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">Par contre, j'ai lut quelque part qu'il fallait faire attention avec les auteurs romains sur ce sujet, barbarisant allègrement le tout pour faire de la propagande pro-civilisation.. <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="6" /></dd> </dl><br />Le problème est que seuls les auteurs Romains ont écrit sur les Druides, et très peu..., ce qui a permis depuis aux auteurs plus récents d'écrire des milliers de pages d'interprétations sur les quelques pages écrites par les Romains.<br />Ce qu'écrit Pline doit remonter à des temps plus anciens que le 1er siècle av JC. Les découvertes archéologiques permettent de penser que les sacrifices humains étaient devenus rares à l'époque de César, et même 1 ou 2 siècles avant.<br />Les sacrifices d'animaux étaient beaucoup plus courants.<br />Quant au rôle des druides, si on suit JL Brunaux, ils étaient plus savants-théologiens que responsables des sacrifices.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 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id="p45341" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="45341" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="45341"></a><strong>daphnis</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Haruspice de Tarquina<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/2513/13/99/89/avatars/377-71.jpg" alt="daphnis" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;"></span></span> <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/subsilver/icon_minigender_male.gif" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /> <span class="label"><span style="color:#0f0202;">Nombre de messages</span> : </span> 279<br /><span class="label">Date d'inscription : </span> 17/10/2008<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img class="sprite-icon_minipost" src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" />Sujet: Re: Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/icon_minitime.gif" alt="Le culte, les sacrifices humains dans la tradition druidique Icon_minitime" border="0" />Sam 9 Juil 2011 - 16:52</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Les récits de sacrifices humains sont en général très exagérés, de toute façon, puisque le but est de diaboliser l'adversaire.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: 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